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    My name is Jeremy, I'm 26 and I consider myself a student of TVP and have spent considerable time learning and reading from the Zeitgeist resources, debating on the ZM forums and volunteering for ZM technical projects.

    I'm writing to let people know of a few projects that I've been volunteering time for. At the moment I'm tackling them solo, but if anybody has XX hours per week then I could easily throw up some topics that people can help with. Let me explain what we are doing.

    Localisation of ZM Addendum to address the Australian Reserve Bank and Australia's Politics

    How will TVP benefit from developing communications to Australia that are relevant and localised?

    Firstly, let me clarify that the current volunteer work ZM members are doing that utilises the existing messages are great and a benefit to humanity. In this report I will merely suggest that we can reach the interest of more Australian's if we localise some key issues so they are relevant and interesting.

    To illustrate my point, take for example Radio, or say Daily news from TV or Newspaper. You will observe a trait that current affairs are generally local unless they are 'big news'. Sports are more interesting because you can participate in them, Murders are more interesting because they are in your area and affect perceived risk, and so forth.

    To explain this phenomena in another way, and in a single sentence, you might say this is a conditioned trait we have developed to want to connect and relate to things, and our perception of belonging and home.

    Obviously YOU, and all of the poeple already active in promoting TVP identified with and feel connected to the strong humanism message in the ZM documenties, aside from the fact that it is not at all relevant to Australia on some key issues.

    However, not everybody will respond the same way you do. Some people will only be motivated to learn about TVP if they connect and relate to it. I believe we can increase the penetration of this occuring through localisation.

    What are the key areas to redress and localise for Australians?

    I'm going to hastily throw down some concepts so that they are digestible. Please keep in mind that this short spiel does not do justice to analyse the complexities of TVP.

    Monetary system

    Firstly, an analysis of the communications regarding the fail of America's Monetary system, and how this affects Australia's monetary system.

    The first key point to make is that Australia does not currently have a long term debt problem the way America does. When I say this, please dont jump to the conclusion that I am pro capitalism. I dont think anybody in the world can argue that an RBE isnt a better place if you can get it going. What I am saying is that when America's national debt reaches a level that is not managable, and the world starts going in to chaos, Australia will have minimal debt and will still have resources the world needs. This means the level of job loss and crash of society are two totally different paradigms.

    Further, because the way our reserve bank works is different, Australia's shouldnt buy in to the same conspiracy theory about our reserve. Of course, the sound argument which remains is that the very nature of a capitalist society is corrupting, but the key premise is lost. We already know the system is corrupt. Honestly, who didnt know that before ZM. Just we believed it was futile and we couldnt do anything about it before we met ZM.

    Unfortunately, Jacque Fresco is more inclined to believe our system will collapse, rather than Peter Josephs plan of rallying all the worlds governments will come to fruition, and I generally tend to agree.

    It is my opinion that many American TVP members are (at their core), motivated by the following facts from ZM Addendum.

    1) That the nation is currently in massive debt and a lot of the tax they pay goes to pay off the debt
    2) That the nations debt will continue to grow because it is in an endless cycle
    3) That this growth in national debt will lead to more and more tax going to pay rich and not for the betterment of humanity
    4) That the government has no plan to reverse debt
    5) That eventually the system will fail and mass poverty will occur.

    Hereby, the fact this is the major motivating factor for Americans, but this DOESNT EVEN APPLY to us the same way, causes a big disconnect.

    Of course Australia's markets will 'collapse' when America's does, but as it stands Australia forecasts to be out of debt in the near future, and to be realistic, when that happens, Australian's will be MUCH better off than Americans due to the world still needing our resource commodities. Let me clarify that means when America crashes, immediately a LOT less of a percentage of Australians are affected by poverty, not that we are all okay.

    Now, an intelligent observer will perform further analysis, over a much longer term, and find that:

    1) As technology replaces resources their value will be marginalised and we may start to incur debt
    2) As countries like China gain more ownership over African and other countries resources, they will bully the price of our commodities out of the market and we will start to incur debt.
    Etc

    In summary, Our Australian based communication on TVP has the contention to reach critically thinking intelligent Australians, and it will do so by accurately identify Australia's economic problems. These problems include an extension that explains Australia's "Reserve Bank", and the fact that although it is different, it to a lesser extent manipulated by world bankers. The communication will further acknowledge the strength of our economy based on resources and to a lesser extend agriculture, and the weakness which is a lack of entreprenuership and other exports. It will accurately define the long term demise of our economy.

    I'm going to time out for a moment because there might be a whole bunch of people thinking. "this guys a moron, economics are useless to society according to JF". Well your right, however 'moronic economics' are a premise of the film JF communicates tot he public, and we need to get the facts right if we want to be persuasive while this system still exists.

    You will note ironically this issue was just in the news this week with regard to taxation 04/05/2010. Surprise, surprise, Australia has boosted resource tax to 40%. Why is that? Because the whole world knows America will crash again and it will be worse, and our government is wisely BETTER utilising our resources which are increasingly being foreigner owned by China and other's. However, intelligent analysis would yield the message that in the long term this is futile.

    An addendum for the Australian Monetary system should be created with a persuasive analysis on exactly WHY and HOW our system doomed in the long term, just long Peter Joseph did for Americans. If you have been following TVP for a while you will note they usually shun affiliation with these kinds of projects without consultation so of course PJ would be in the loop to ensure benchmarks are met.

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    Political System

    - Analysis and extension of JF's messages on the problems with political systems relating to Australia. Again, the strong emphasis on corporate corruption and buying politicians certainly works different in Australia.

    Do the research, you are not going to find out that John Howard was like George Bush, where there are allegations his family has ties to defense and makes money out of world conflict. This whole, 'the leaders are in a conspiracy' thing is going to be refuted as ridiculous by any rational Australian on somebody like John Howard/Kevin Rudd. (I personally don't like either, I'm just referring to the financial interests). Of course, if rational Australian's did research on American they might find that that much of what is said about America's system is in fact true. Even so, it is still less relevant to us.

    An addendum for Australian Political System is added with an analysis of the last several decades, even 100 years, including observations and ultimately leading to a contention of stagnate progress for our country. The analysis will show that interest only in the short term, vastly inefficient with our countries management doing everything all over again every 4 years. EG:

    - Workplace Reform
    - Education

    Need i go on. Not to mention that we waste even more money doing things differently for every state.

    This will culminate to a communication with persuasive, evidence based projection on how our system will fail (this projection obviously utilises TVP's core philosophies).

    Other Localisation Projects

    In addition to these things. I would love to see a day when we could 'ease' people in to JF's concepts. For instance if somebody is greatly attached to religion, they will probably walk out of JF's lecture.

    This is why I am working on segmented and structured presentation of TVP which will be sent to them for approval before being utilised.

    JF wants us to carry on his work, and in order to do that we need to communicate it in ways that are more accessible to Gen Y/Z. This is why JF is so attached to PJ.

    The third major project I am working on, is redeveloping some content to that it is 'mass market' friendly. This involves the following:

    -Removal for the time being of religious insults.
    -Removal for the time being of 'the government is out to get us'.
    -Removal for the time being of conspiracies which are too great and in-depth to percieve in a short period of time. These will be structured in a methodical staggered approach involving multiple media's. IE, Iraq is for oil.
    -Redevelopment of Military are useless, Most jobs are useless, to "miltary is better served in negociation", somebody in business and marketing is better served in human communication and management, etc.

    I'd just like to clarify that I actually love Jacque Fresco and he is my favourite humanist of the whole world. I like his candid commentary on these kinds of social and political issues, but unfortunately they are not an effective sales tool for the whole public.

    In summary, I mean developing TVP to concentrate communicating as many of the core philosophies as we can (to ensure the integrity of TVP is maintained), WITHOUT isolating the audience.

    For instance, TVP was humiated on JJJ and the largest chance for exposure to Australia was, in my opinion, wasted. Considering WHAT TVP is I was very shocked by our public relations management. I think the problem is that we have a trend where only PJ and JF are able to articulate the complexity of ideals behind an RBE in a small session. In fact JF himself admits that 5 minutes generally wont cut it.

    This task is rather complicated and will involve presentations to TVP and then many redevelopment cuts. I am currently working on it alone. I noticed that there is a group involved with movie production, you are welcome to email me.

    Conclusion

    So anyway, if anybody believes I have a valid point then get on board. I already volunteer for other not-for-profits so I'm currently fitting in about 4 hours per week for TVP. Even with this I am making considerable progress. You don't need economic knowledge to get on board either, just the ability to Google search and and interesting in learning and research.

    Some other thoughts

    In addition to studies in business, I also work with technology and multimedia. For some time Ive done some work with search engine optimisation to create successful online projects. The last thing I would like to do is the following:

    Apply cutting edge technology projects like domination of the search engines of specific keywords for anybody who searches given words within Australia (GEO based SEO). This is much easier to achieve in Australia than in America and within 1 year a significant opportunities could arise of up to 10% of Australia's population through search alone. With a significant team of volunteers that understand technology like myself the penetration could be much larger.

    Australian VEO (video engine optimisation), would be a phase two project with smaller penetration but a larger impact on the end user.

    Social bookmarketing projects should also be considered, if you are technology savvy you will notice these have already been undertaken, but localisation of our marketing can create the opportunity to undertake a massive Australia oriented ZM marketing strategy that can have a large penetration to technology users.

    That's all

    Thank you for reading this far. If you know anybody interested in volunteer work let me know.

    Warm Regards

    Jeremy

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    Finally on communication, you can PM me and I will give you my email.

    And with regard to team work:

    Depending on the number of respondents, state based meet-ups could occur, I personally live in Melbourne.

    However in the interest of time efficiency I think these should at most be infrequent. And they should occur at particular levels of completion. The best method will be using web page based project management/collaboration tools.

    I have one of these setup and they effectively work with a 'bulletin boards', which turns into 'to do lists' which are assigned to people with 'time parameters' attached, etc. This is integrated with forum for further chat and a wiki to report final outcomes.

    Cheers

    Jeremy

    EDIT*** One last thing... I was just re-reading what I wrote and face-palming with the amount of typos I cant edit anymore. Id just like to clarify two things in case rather than people responding wanting to help, somebody critises me for saying that TVP isnt perfect and pointing out a flaw.

    Firstly, I cant formulate into words the respect I have for JF, other than to say I think he is the worlds foremost humanist. Secondly, I should offer that I am not a Religious person or somebody obsessed with the 'meta'. The reason I think we should remove religion is purely a statistical one. I hope this negates any potential trolls.

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    I'd like to know how Australia's reserve bank works, and who owns/controls it.

    I don't think we were humiliated on JJJ, however this has been discussed before. ZM is in it's infancy in Australia, and if we want to be taken seriously and be able to convey the message properly, one person per chapter needs to be the official spokesperson. That person should be the most knowledgeable, articulate, and preferably have a background in media/journalism etc. Sure we didn't get much time on their, but I wonder if that might have been different if that NRL scandal had not broke on that day. Other roles and responsibilities in the chapters would probably follow, but we need much better organisation.

    I would like more information on the update/facelift of this website and it's merging with zeitgeist and venus project in the one place. This was brought up at one of the Melbourne meetings a few weeks ago.

    Interesting post, it would be a worthwhile exercise to localise the issues. We have zeitgeist addendum here and now, and I would like to be involved in promoting this to the city of Melbourne through distribution of dvd's etc, and building structure and member numbers in this chapter. Unfortunately I missed the last meeting because I was down in mornington for a family birthday party clean up.

    Which reminds me, I would like the meetings to be broadcast live across the net so that those who can't make it in person can still be there and be involved. This might be as simple as having a laptop with a webcam and running msn messenger, but damn that would be awesome.

    Good work mate, hope to meet you at the next meeting if I haven't already to discuss further.

    Cheers

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    Thank you for the encouragement. I agree that perhaps humiliated was strong language.

    Your concept on casting the meetings is a good idea. Because this kind of requirement is my field, I can upload a process, recommended software, and the technical specifications to integrate the cast into the web site.

    As for a timeline to do this, I cant do it tonight, perhaps tomorrow night I can give myself 30 mins to write this up. I cant commit to doing the actual filming every week, but with what I write I'm pretty sure somebody can implement this. I might offer that it may be suitable to ensure that the premises for future meetings has a fixed internet connection, as mobile based GPRS internet will be problematic for a high quality video uplink.
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    There is also one other thing I was thinking i should recommend as a seasoned ZM member which relates to my proposal. I think its important to know where the strengths and weaknesses of ZM media are. IE, where faults and skepticism lie.

    I think its almost been proven humanly impossible to fault JF, but PJ's documentaries have been shown to be riddled with faults. In the event your belief structure is challenged, you can be well educated and know 100% of the truths and where every proven weakness is.

    Every critically thinking ZM member should read the following:

    http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist
    http://www.conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/

    There are many other such instances, but the above two interlink with dozens of different specialised web communities who perform a comprehensive analysis on ZM communications. Other than some religious bias, most of the skepticism points above are correct. Some conclusions to draw from this are:

    - Dont ever market ZM 1.0, only use Addendum. Understand that somebody who claims ZM 1.0 is full of shit is actually correct from a certain perspective. You should marketing the underlying concepts of ZM rather than challenging/arguing a person from debating with you. In fact you ironically become like somebody with a religious belief if you defend something which you don't understand under the pretext that it has the right 'ideals'.
    - Know the areas of Addendum which are gray and unproven. If somebody identifies and tries to use these as a slippery slope or straw man, you can simply reiterate any of the underlying important concepts of TVP.

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    After researching my initial post and the further information I gave you, you may reach a similar conclusion to myself which is:

    - The religion argument from Z1 was a mistake, they should have used another approach to argue against religion. The 911 argument has been half debunked, and other parts of it are proven a gray area, the main problem here is you cant allege the government are conspired to kill 4000 people unless you get your facts right. Many of the war claims were proven false, although some were true........ and etc.

    - And that the monetary system and political system arguments arn't applicable to Australia as my OP contention.

    - The entire 'notion' of a 'resource based economy' means all the world shares all the resources. At the moment Australia has the largest world share of resources per capita. I personally have no problem sharing, but many Australians might think "well if America spent the last 300 years being corrupt and ruined their country, why should we share with them now that their golden age is over?"... or something along this kind of mentality. Similarly, an intelligent thinker should also understand that China and India are similar (but better), positions to us Aussies. I already mentioned earlier I had another few dozen localisation issues, just thought i would throw another in.

    With all the above you might reach the same state of thinking as me and realise that we simply MUST make some small changes to our communications to reach Australians. I look forward to any other thoughts and ideas - Regards - Jeremy.

  5. Freyacat

    “Nothing better exemplifies the baffling complexity of modern production than the present situation in Australia. Trade is depressed, our unemployed are by the tens of thousands, who walk the streets of our great cities and tramp the country roads downcast and in many cases dependent for food on charity – while their country is a veritable garden of Eden in which blooms in luxuriant profusion almost everything that man could desire.
    We have a population of a little over six million people – many now in sad trouble – yet we still produce this year enough wheat to feed thirty millions, and meat, butter, dried fruits, sugar and other kind of food and raw materials, including industry minerals and metals, sufficient for double or treble our present population. And yet they say Australia is in a bad way because we produce too little. Wealth in abundance meets the eye on every land, yet men are unemployed and trade is depressed. Surely, the trouble does not arise, because we produce too little ... “
    This quote is taken from a speech by Prime Minister Bill Hughes during the great depression of the 1920s and 30's.
    I found it on a DVD given to me by a another ZM member that contained a video of a presentation to 300 young people in Brisbane by Jeremy Lee in 2001, and is titled "The Legalized Theft of the Australian Monetary System". The video gives an overview of the the beginnings of the Commonwealth Bank in 1911 as a "people's bank', and its gradual shift towards centralized banking, in part modelled on the US Federal Reserve and monetary system which was secretly planned and hatched on Jekyll Island by US senator Aldrich and the country's top financiers (the latter incident being described on Addendum). There were other historical snippets of relevance to Australian people trying to understand our monetary system and how it fits into the international context and globalization, such as Howard's 1996 meeting with International bankers. Lee quotes verbatim from the Finacial Review June 7, 1996:

    “As John Howard swept into the chandeliered banquet hall to address top executives of 100 of the world’s biggest banks this week, he could not have known that a trap had been laid for him. The bankers, the most internationally influential audience Mr. Howard has confronted since taking office, had spent half a day discussing the price they would demand from countries round the world for bankrolling them. In an increasingly capital-thirsty world, international financiers, the commissars of capital, have become modern potentates with the power to dictate policy to states which have long considered themselves sovereign...
    By the time Mr. Howard took the lectern in Sydney, the speakers at the invitation only International Monetary Conference had already set out a checklist of policies. Most explicit was the chairman of the US Investment Bank Goldman, Sachs and Co., Mr. John Carzene, a formal central banker, who was asked by the group to specify the conditions for what he called the ‘the inherently blunt process that leaves many worthy initiatives and investments without resources’ ...”
    Jeremy Lee goes on to explain the consequences of this meeting for the Australian monetary system GST, public spending cuts, etc. (and I apologize for the long quotes I used in this post but I could not find them on the net to give the references/hyperlinks).
    Now, this workshop video footage is well worth watching, and what it did for me make the Addendum absolutely real, I can no longer distance myself. You are right Jeremy, we need the local context! As it is now, I seem to know more about the US monetary system than our own here. I checked out Jeremy Lee on his website, and he has been with and still appears to have connections with the Australian League of Rights, a far-right organization known for its jingoistic nationalism, ant-Semitism, monarchism , Anglo-centrism and preference for a white Australia. Really right at the other end of my own preferred philosophical spectrum, and diametrically opposed to the core values of what ZM stands for. However, some of the info presented was extremely useful and helped me to connect the dots on how we fit into the international monetary situation, and the effect it has on our people. Our unemployed and marginalized may not walk the streets now; they are more likely to subsist on Centrelink benefits, and sit at home isolated full of anti-depressant, anti-anxiety, and anti-psychotic drugs (boosting the profits of multinational pharmaceutical companies); or else they may be addicted to recreational drugs.
    So, my point is:
    • Yes, we need to developaccurate local material and integrate it with Addendum
    • We need an Australian Monetary system 101 that is easy to understand by almost everyone
    • We must avoid elitism by further marginalizing sections of our community who would most benefit from an RSB. There are many who at present are not noticeably present in ZM:
    e.g., seniors, indigenous, women, and people from a culturally and linguistically diverse background, poor people without access to computers and the skills to operate them, etc.
    Thank you, Jeremy, for sensitively and respectfully raising such an important issue, and you have provided much inspiration to think harder. I apologize for this long post, I have some more to say on conspiracy and religion but will leave it for another time. Ignore spelling and grammar in the above, English is my second language.
    With kind regards
    PS: Yes, I would like to help in the development of a locally relevant project. I checked out the Reserve Bank Board of Directors on the RBA website. Members have the duty to disclose other current board membership interests, and I didn’t like much their chairman/directorship with companies like James Hardie, Coca Cola, Walmart-Stores and L. J. Hooker. Am not familiar with the other companies but intend to research.
    Also noted, but was not surprised that past members were all men most of whom had been knighted. Also read recently that Glenn Stevens claims to do God's work in his current role as RBA director (raising interest rates for Jesus?).

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    Wowee, lot of information to take in with all this.

    Hey good work on providing the links for the Zeitgeist sceptics. I looked at a couple of sceptic links on YouTube a while ago and before I knew it they started going on with bible quotes, and next to no relevant info on how they had proven it wrong. Had a brief read through, but will have to come back to it, as it's very extensive.

    Correct, to just blindly trust that what we are being told in zeitgeist, goes against everything I believe zeitgeist and zeitgeist movement is trying to to teach us about questioning everything and empowering yourself with knowledge of the institutions that are so pervasive in all our lives.

    I liked the religion argument, the bibles (both versions) really are a book of lies and stolen material from previous pagan, Egyptian, greek, and the like religions. I just never really thought about it that much until I saw this movie. Not sure what other tack they can take to explain that everything subscribers of the major religions believed in has unfortunately been plagiarised. The hardcore will obviously reject it no matter what evidence you put on the table.

    I think a lot of people are suss on 9/11 without seeing this film, it was sooooo dodgy in both execution and investigation (or lack thereof). Will have to read what has been debunked about it.

    Yeah I don't know about countries merging together and abolishing all borders, I don't think I'll live long enough to see that happen. However I would like to see communities of people binding together, withdrawing from the capitalism rat race grid and raising there own towns and cities that are mostly RBE (it would likely have to be a hybrid of RBE and Monetary Based Economy to begin with). We would be in for a long wait if we are to wait for our leaders and tax money being spent on creating these for us, is my opinion on that.

    Great post Freyacat, I'll have a look for that 'The Legalized Theft of the Australian Monetary System' I would really like to see that. If you know of anymore don't hold back. After reading that I am even more convinced that Jeremy is really onto something here that would resonate with more power with our own countries people.

    Well I could go on and on, but I'll stop there for the moment.

    Cheers.

  7. Freyacat

    Your encouragement is appreciated, thank you Dark Prodigy!
    Re. the DVD workshop presentation "The Legalized Theft of the Australian Monetary System", I have been unable to find this anywhere, but will ask the person who lent it to me at the next meeting. On Jeremy Lee's website he advertises a book called "The Story of the Commonwealth Bank" by D.J. Amos, and "Mending a Mortgaged World" DVD authored by Lee himself.
    He also contributes to the far-right Australian League of Rights newsletter which can be viewed online, and there you will find his article summarizing his ideas in "Debt Driven Globalization".

    On the ALOR site there is a section called 'Bankwatch' which contains an article by Eric Butler (Founder of ALOR) "The Enemy within the Empire- A short history of the Bank of England, that describes how the UK changed to a Central Banking System, and how the process was repeated here with the Commonwealth Bank (the pp. relevant to the Australian case are 30-38).
    I must warn you that the ALOR material is offensively anti-Jewish, as they blame the Jewish bankers in particular for fostering world-wide socialism which will result in a centralized one world government and banking system. He also blames the Russian revolution on the Jews, and so manages to blame them for socialism, communism and (controlled and regulated) capitalism! Completely irrational and hateful.

    I have a recently published book here that must have been written just before the GFC, "Lords of Finance -1929 the Great depression, and the Bankers who Broke the World", by Liaquat Ahamed (who is a professional investment manager, has worked for the World Bank, and won the Financial Times Goldman Sachs Business Book of the year award,lol. The historical bank info on the ALOR site seems to check out ok. Ahmed concludes that it was human nature that led to ill-devised decisions that in turn led to the Wall Street crash and its aftermath.
    The problem with sites like ALOR that info is either not at all, or poorly referenced, and therefore cross-checking info becomes difficult, and I don't like to just rely on anecdotal evidence.
    Lee tells the story of a Economics Masters Thesis study by a student in the 80's at MacGill University in Canada. He collected the exports and imports info of every country in the world and fed the data into a computer, and it showed that the world was now running a trade deficit on itself, of 100 billion every 12 month. That apparently blew every economic theory out of the water because theoretically this is not possible.
    If anyone can give me the name of the guy who conducted this study, please let me know. A search of the Mac Gill Uni website yielded nothing; there is not even an Economics Faculty listed. I may search the uni libraries to back up this interesting little anecdote with credible evidence.

    I did find other info/resources I found useful in my efforts to get my head around the Australian Monetary System. I took out some year 12 texts from my local library, however found that they had not changed much from the days i did Matric Economis back in the 70's, and were just as dry and boring.
    Luckily I came across the Billy blog http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/, a website on alternative economic thinking by William Mitchell, Prof. of Economics at University of Newcastle with sections on Understanding Central Banking Operations, Capital Controls, a Simple Budget Game Exploring Modern Money Economics, and comments on reserve bank decisions, the current situation in the EU and Greece, etc.
    I am going to email him with a question: is there a board game available that makes learning about the Australian monetary system easier and more fun. I am thinking of something like Monopoly, but as a proper educational tool and spefically Australian-oriented. DOES ANYONE KNOW OF SUCH A THING??? Or even a computer-game type version, like the Adelaide stock market has on their site (where you can pretend to be an investor).

    Yet another find as the result of my hunting and gathering mission is a critique of the way Economics is taught in Western countries, and I'll paste in the abstract because it the doc is larger than the allowable uploads:

    REVAMPING THE ECONOMICS CURRICULUM
    By
    Peter Harkness
    Senior Lecturer in Economics
    Swinburne University
    Melbourne
    Email : pharkness@swin.edu.au
    A paper presented at the Australian Association for Research in Education
    Conference in Adelaide in November 2006
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    Revamping the Economics Curriculum
    ABSTRACT
    Economics is commonly studied at schools and is one of the most popular courses at
    university (usually within a Bachelor of Business or Commerce degree). Thus, it is of
    great importance that the economics curriculum is enlightening and revealing and
    addresses profound questions. In my view, it is not doing this well. The typical syllabus
    hides more than it reveals, especially at the tertiary level.
    This paper will describe the major deficiencies in the way economics is normally
    taught in western countries, including how narrow and unrealistic orthodox economic
    theory is, and how it legitimises our unequal, competitive, individualistic capitalistic
    economic system. Orthodox economics courses rarely question the status quo, and rarely
    present students with alternative ways of imagining society.
    The paper outlines an alternative syllabus which endeavours to analyse the economy
    the way it really is, and addresses all its main dimensions: historical, social, political and
    environmental. This contrasts starkly with the simplistic stylised "perfectly competitive"
    economy assumed in standard economic theory.

    That is well put, and it is worth reading the entire paper (23 pp.) But enough for now.

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    Thank you Freyacat.

    Connecting with somebody like you was exactly what I was hoping for. I'm sorry that it took me so long to reply, Ive been ball and chain to my desk the last two weeks working late on my business, to make up for it im going to spend some considerable time on research.

    Hopefully after a solid day or two of work on this I can come back to you with a lot of reference artifacts so I can give you further places of interest too.

    I'll also finish the customisation of the collaboration resource too so that work can be properly organised, and we can start attracting a group for assistance. I think we will find that even some overseas resources will be of assistance in this project.

    - Jeremy

  9. Freyacat

    Hi Jeremy
    that is excellent, I am hoping to get my teeth into some research in a more focused and organized manner. At the moment I am still gathering information on really basic questions to fill the gaps in my knowledge of how the RBA is managed and who runs it, e.g., who appoints its governor and board members, and on whose recommendations, what are the reasons for recommending appointments to the board, how much are they paid, what other interests and connections do board members have, etc. The next step will be finding out what the different RBA functions are, how decisions relate to the international monetary situation, and how this effects us on the every day level, e.g mortgage interest rates, stimulus or cuts in public spending. I am also interested in the historical context that major changes to the monetary system were made in, and agree that we should look at the last 1oo years (as mentioned in one of your earlier posts). There is no great urgency, but I do hope that we can come up with something relevant before the next Z-Day.
    Looking forward to hear from you again, with kind regards from Freyacat

  10. 3Thought

    Ive come across this thread and feel exited the idea of puting ZAdd into australian context is an excellent idea, ive got to go to bed but Ill have a lookie loo into it tomorrow...
    two things that come to mind tho
    1.the monatary systems biggest problem is the incentive for people to be corrupt or rather change the rules.
    (see privatisation)
    Human beings are capable of producing enough for themselves many times over but this ability
    is being stymied by those who wish to remain "first among equals". we may not be as corrupt as the U.S but I feel were headed that way.

    Also we do use the same materals economy as the U.S. and most every other country, with all its purpose and shortcomings. (see http://www.storyofstuff.com)Thats all I got for now, ill dig for more tomorrow. Be COOL

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