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  • Posted by Lasher 1 year ago. There are 15 posts. The latest reply is from .
  1. Lasher

    To tell you the truth, I am extremely disturbed at the level of (for the lack of a better phrase) give a shit riht here in WA.

    We live in possibly, and often reffered to "the most isolated city in the world' here in Perth. I've been watching this forum for only about a month or so, I'll admit - but where the fuck is everybody?

    I've shown the Zietgeist movie to quite a few people. People refered it to me... people that aren't here.this is a very quiet forum. However I am certain that those of you that have joined it are actually interested in what potential discusions could exist here - however none are being made! Is this a fools errand?

    I honestly thought after watching these movies.. the buzz I feel when discussing them with people I know that - one would assume - that the forums for said movies would be on fire! especially for a place like western Australia - but no - It's quiet. WTF!?

    It's time to rise up people. WA especially should be rocking the Australian forums. I intend to get more people active so we can discuss all kinds of things - but OH MY GOD! Let's take this possibilety/opportunity to share! It's really depressing to see that no fucker is talking that often here! I would assume that there is so much potential out here - to do so much good - but it won't happen unless we start doing it! Start the conversation - see where it goes. WA chapter just seems so half arsed right now. I'm ready to shake shit up.

    Anyone listening?

  2. Lasher

    Every day we walk though the city or wherever, we are confronted with GreenPeace people or WWF or amnesty people... Where are all the Zeitgeist people? I remember when I first time I watched Zeitgeist: Addendum, the guy I watched it with was like; "Dude we should just go right out now and hand this DVD out to people in the street". I agreed - but I didn't do shit.

    Maybe we SHOULD do that! When's the next meet? What are our prioritees? Where do we go from here?

    I vow to try and check this forum more often than fucking facebook from now on.

    This is supposed to be an ACTIVIST movement. Let's get active.

    Greenpeace asks for money. WWF money. Amnesty... money.. Zeitgeist T-shirts - n0 money - just have this free DVD.

  3. admin

    there is not much exposure on this forum, and Activist matters are to be shifted to a separate Google Group or a mailing list, i am not sure of WA has one yet.

    have you called the Perth organizer?

    call him up and ask him of any current projects, if not, establish one.

    you can reach me on my email or my phone
    0404553369

  4. User has not uploaded an avatar

    I am sorry, but what have you physically done. Put out flyers handed out DVD,s stop waiting for some one to tell you what to do contact your head see what other people are doing.OH and stop PISSING and MOANING on the forums

  5. Lasher

    Thank you both. I take that dosoto as a challenge and not an insult. I concur it may come across as pissing and moaning, but my actual intention was to get a rise out of people and begin a discussion. Granted I have not gotten off my arse to hand out flyers or make T-shirts or something... I was hoping to talk to people here. Perhaps it is true that it is far easier to bitch from my keyboard and not actually get out there and do shit. I can not argue with that if I am to be honest and true to the situation.

    I shall admit this;

    I am fucking terrified.

    I have signed up with a pseudonym to this site. I have given a fake email. I am reluctant to some of the messages put forward through the movies due to the fact that I feel that the bias towards Anti-Christianity is in some degree unfounded. I do believe that established religion is basically a sham - but I also believe in a fundamental persona or 'Christ' as a hallmark (for consumerist lack of better word). I liken the concept of a 'Zeitgeist' and the idea that one is created every cycle of the zodiac to a different perspective than the one in the films. Forgive me if this sounds ridiculous and fictional - but what if the concept is not merely a system created for control - but manipulated to seem so after the fact? I think of concepts put forward in the movies of 'The Matrix', whilst juxtaposing this as if the Zodiac is like a clock.

    Every Hour we have a new 'Messiah'. - One who ushers in the next level of consciousness. The masses, after adhering to the new concept are then, in turn manipulated by those in power to alter the message of the messiah or zeitgeist.

    To believe that all are one and one is all - I feel is akin to the progressive change. In 'The Matrix' it is admitted by "The Architect" that this is actually the sixth iteration of the world as we know it. This psychological concept, I feel - totally applies - if one thinks of bees and their biological acceptance of their queen and total adherence to such... does not the same possibilty - as it occurs in nature and our own beliefs as recorded by history, apply?

    I do not wish to PISS and MOAN on these forums... I hope to reach out and gain a larger understanding of what it is we wish to achieve here. I will also like to admit, albeit annonymously, that I am also reluctant due to powers that be = who is watching? Maybe I'm all mesed up and mental health has something to do with it. I am afraid for the Earth and for my children. I long for peace and equality. Drastic change is a scary thing. Lord grant me the strength.

  6. bividium

    I don't personally see the Zeitgeist film as 'anti-christian', more like it takes a direct objective view of religion in its totality today, and obviously Christianity, is one of the current reigning religions and it is by far, to date, the one religion that has been tweaked, manipulated and molded to fit particular political and so called 'superior' moral agendas. I do not believe in a divine persona, although, upon my mortal death, perhaps I will see that I am wrong. To me, any God or Deity is merely a personification of something greater in which we, as mortal beings, find hard to conceive and to see. I view it as a universal energy as such, one in which our souls themselves are forged from, and one of which we return to after our physical bodies are rendered useless. Our physical existence perhaps is just merely an organic biological process, we are born, we live, we die. But as humans, with the ability to critically think, to imagine and to ask, we elevate ourselves above all other living matter and claim that some divine force, or some 'God' forged us in our full design him/herself. Is this not a dose of arrogance in which we as humans are all born with?
    And IF there is a God, or an all-seeing, all-knowing divine force, why would this entity have human characteristics, why would this entity, quite simply even have a sex? What makes religion in my view, a walk of hypocrisy, is that each in their own right, claim their God to be the one and true God, and that their God rewards and punishes in the same light, and yet that their God is holy, is just and furthermore, real..
    While I don't follow or submit to a religious ideology, I entertain the idea that ALL religions that have ever been and ever will be here on Earth are in fact, real in some parallel of the universe. The power of faith is incredibly strong, and with the unified belief over millions and billions of souls, could this not, in effect, create parallels in our universe where each divine belief system is true? Maybe those who die a Christian really do go to Heaven, maybe those who die as a Buddhist perhaps are reincarnated, and maybe those who die a Muslim end up in their idea of Heaven. With this collective belief, and with the creative ability we have as beings, maybe we ourselves have forged the existence of each religious realm somewhere out there...perhaps, the universe, connected by this force or energy has no projection of its own, merely it is a painting for each viewer to interpret in their own right, and to use this force to create their own divinity..

    As for activism within the Zeitgeist movement, you have already begun that process Lasher, by simply being here, by watching the film and by sharing it within your own circles. Also do not forget that other organizations, such as the WWF and Greenpeace in which you mention have a strong public appearance are internationally established groups that have had much media exposure, and also fight for a cause that is less interpreted and manipulated to meet someones moral or political ideals. The Zeitgeist Movement is one that can be viewed as dangerous by many, for it does go against the grain of the collective beliefs, and we have all been conditioned in each our own ways to frown upon those who appear to go against the grain as such.

    Fear for the future of your children, fear for the longevity of this planet yes, but make no mistake, do not allow this fear to overcome your senses in such a way that you emit negative energy. use it to awaken yourself, use it to ascend and use it to be wise, to be cautious and to be true to what you believe is true.

    From possibility to actuality
  7. User has not uploaded an avatar

    Im sorry I see good ideas come from forms but when all is said and done it gets hand balled or dropped. We are all in the same boat.you do not have to convert anyone here. The tools are here, you just have to get physically active that is how you inform others out there.

  8. bividium

    Nowhere do I see anyone here trying to convert anyone...where did you get that idea??

    Perhaps I'm being naive, but isn't discussion part of being active for a cause?

  9. User has not uploaded an avatar

    I am not talking about the people here All I am talking about getting of your ASS and spreading the word physically

  10. Lasher

    so what sort of stuff do you do dosoto?

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