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  • Posted by mercuryspooning 1 year ago. There are 46 posts. The latest reply is from Phem.

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    @ Phem.

    Yes, I should have made it more specific that becoming disobedient would only be affective AFTER gaining a large support.

    Think of it as phases 1, 2 and 3.

    Man, I wish there was a music festival that could empty an entire cities and trigger the start of a new world \m||m/.
    If only the Beatles were still around, they managed to empty Adelaide.

    But that would be a good promotional idea. I don't think the actual beginning of transition would be that pleasant. It would actually be a real endurance test, because nothing would be able to go back to anything close to normal until the world's governments give up and relinquish power, or the people rebelling give up and decide to go to work (and the 'leaders' prosecuted ect.).

    Then there would be rebuilding: I don't think a Venus City would be the first thing that we'd undertake.

    A lot of it would be organizing ourselves on the basis of having no leadership, and the first thing I'd probably do is motivate everyone to destroy every firearm, bomb and weapon they find.

    Then we'd have people using existing computers to start establishing the resource system, others working on demolishing commercial buildings to be recycled, people working on robotics, and there will be a lot on manual labor to grow and distribute food.

    The next thing we'd have to do is try and automate the power and water supplies, as we'd need both to start producing solar panels to run everything.

    Then there would be automating medial tasks to gradually move all our efforts to things that are more creative (like building cities), using the internet to share ideas as they come up and make the process faster.

    Then the actual construction of the cities would come last, using existing powerlines ect. to stay connected to the rest of the world.

    I'd imagine many highways and roads would remain, but these would deteriorate within a few decades, as they require maintenance due to the nature of their construction, as do powerlines, phonelines, some satellites.

    A lot of that system would have to be designed before any uprising takes place. Since the problem with prototyping anything is money, nothing would be really prototyped and tested until authority is removed and all resources are made available for free.

    We'd need a basic protocol on what to do in the aftermath, especially because the only way to avoid one person becoming a dictator is to have everything written down and planned before any direct change is made.

    Yes, I'm being blunt, but history shows that even when people are refused reform (which is what I'd prefer), it turns into revolution, and revolutions are bloody, and in most cases, always end with a dictatorship and the whole thing starts all over again.

    I personally think people are too focused on the eventual goal, and are in love with the idea of a completely automated system without realizing that even after an uprising, it would likely be decades before we're able to live like that (correct me if there's something I don't know), and probably centuries if we keep living in the current system where resources are restricted.

  2. wildwabbit

    I think mass walk outs by the current ZM membership would barely register a blip on the radars atm. Growing the memberships by promoting ZM znd VP would be the first step.

    The idea of mass revolt, even through non violence and non participation are a great idea, however I feel that there are always going to be an element of society that will abuse and cash in on the situation.

    Its a sad fact that people will focus on the negatives and loose sight of the goal very quickly. The media are very good at manipulating sitituations back into the hands we are trying to free ourselves from.

    Do you think it is coincendence that the recent weather forcasts about more major storms hitting Qld come at the same time as the government implements the flood levy? I'm not denying that the weather threats aren't there, but they are getting much more attention than normal, simply to instill fear into people so that they are glad to pay a flood tax. Why not impose laws that force insurance companies to make flooding a mandatory non contestable cover. Oh hang on, that would only benifit individuals, not corporations or Government, there no profit in that.

    I grew up in Mackay which has had a history of being flood prone. My geography teacher at school always reminded us to be very careful and investigate properly what was deemed flood damage in our insurance when we got older and bought houses, and to always investigate all flood records available.

    Not every one is aware of the tactics of insurance companies, its usually only when its too late that you realise the things you weren't made away of. Thats business!

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    You're right about the media. They will fight the ZM every step of the way because 1. it's not as popular as I-phones or terrorisim, and 2. a report of "money is crap, corporations are evil and the whole system is primitive and stupid, we should live in a society that doesn't need such hogwash... now here's Jill with finance, after a word from our sponsors" on the news wouldn't really go down well with investors.

    But saying "A dope smoking nutbag who shaved his head and is most likely psychotic shot a politician and a bunch of other... he enjoyed Slipknot, Donnie Darko and Zeitgiest." is GREAT for creating interest and is therefore profitable because it generates debate.

    But, on all the news websites reporting this, and on some talkback radio in the states, Zeitgeist was defended intelligently and coherently, so media attacks on the movement are like throwing stones at a Panzer.

    The media, youtube, social networking ect. are all big business and will do everything they can to keep it all quiet. You can especially see this with the soft censoring of ZG3 (I also found out they do the same for deathmetal filmclips, so obviously they like censoring anything that goes against the status quo) on Youtube.

    I have a relative that works in insurance, and yes, they will squeeze every cent out of what they can... it's a business, not a service.

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    Observation:
    People around the 28 - 50 year old, I have found to be the most resistant towards
    the idea's of TVP because I think they have spent the most amount of time with working for a living, They don't know any better, but

    Question:
    Have we tried radio, for an older style message relay?

    -Peace
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    I think starting zm communitys that r as self sufficent as possible ,leading to total self suffenciey,it would offer those that r wanting to do something to do it ,the could b microsocietys of what we would hope to implement globally,giving us the trial and error to get the system right,then after a few years and thes zm microsocietys flourishing the world would b able to better see how it could work ,it would take dedication and it could b considered insular but it would allow us to take part in what parts of societys that we need 2these communitys could b used to trial and error different systems
    , with the supercomputer doing the math to help us,all the time making a bluprint for the total package then the community would b able have a choice if they were given it to make,with the global awakening these communitys should flourish,even getting a political arm if needed,hopefully after a few years our stats would b 2 good 2 ignore,chqange while thru history seems sudden ,was indeed planned for many years in advance and most changes dont come easy,and this woiuld b the mother of all changes,thatd b the way id do it,mick

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    Yeah true, as for super computers,
    we don't need just one computer to do such things, we can use multiple computers working on seprate area's and designed to interlink into a main network PC's
    consisting of 12 core + server computers for mass compiling of numbers.

    If any one know's any computer programmer's / hackers send em along here, because we will need their skills@~!

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